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+P Self Defense Carry

This is a discussion on +P Self Defense Carry within the The Ammo Can forums, part of the The Armory category; I have a Glock 19 Gen 4, Glock 30S, and Shield 9mm. Anyone know of any issues or reason why I should not use +P ...

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    +P Self Defense Carry

    I have a Glock 19 Gen 4, Glock 30S, and Shield 9mm.

    Anyone know of any issues or reason why I should not use +P ammo in these guns?
    I have been using non +P 9mm 147 grain JHP/45 ACP 230 grain JHP for carry and FMJ/TMJ for range.

    From what I have read, hollow points expend a lot of the bullet's forward/penetrating energy expanding. +P would not only ensure sufficient energy to get the full expansion, but the full intended penetration as well.

    Other concern is damage to guns due to over pressure. Currently been using Speer Lawman (range) and Speer Gold Dot (carry) ammo.
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    I use HST 230 gr. hollow points non +p. Don't think I really need +p.

    Here's a vid for ya and a good article.



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    Anyone know of any issues or reason why I should not use +P ammo in these guns?
    you can as long as its a modern barrel (dot in the little house) but think of it as driving your car really fast, cornering hard and coming to a stop hard. you can do it but it will shorten the life of the car. same as a gun, it can be done but it has a price
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    Shoot some +p back to back with standard pressure defense loads. I've found that the added recoils doesn't offset any hoped for gains in bullet performance. That's across the board in my carry guns. 26, 30s and XDS. I've settled on standard pressure HST for all of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srk View Post
    I have a Glock 19 Gen 4, Glock 30S, and Shield 9mm.

    Anyone know of any issues or reason why I should not use +P ammo in these guns?
    Other than +P is more of a 'gimmick ' than anything else, no reason. But as others have said there is a price, you figure out if it's worth it. My opinion is if you feel you need a more power upgrade your 'caliber'
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    The Hornady American Gunner +P with the XTP bullet is what I carry in my short barreled 9mm guns. Either that or the HST Federal. A 147gr is going to move slower than a 124 or 115. A little extra punch not fired on a daily basis should be fine. This would be my bipolar G27, Shield9, and the Taurus PT111Gen2. I do carry it in my 19 too. My SCCY will only see +P if I accidentally load it. I am afraid it would kick itself to death with +P

    Swampy bear in mind TN9 was using a 5" barrel. How many people carry that long of a barrel? Velocity can increase with 200, or 185gr. Different bullet designs need different speeds to expand properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PocketBlaster View Post
    Other than +P is more of a 'gimmick ' than anything else, no reason. But as others have said there is a price, you figure out if it's worth it. My opinion is if you feel you need a more power upgrade your 'caliber'
    You are so full of shit. You don't know beans from apple butter. I can hardly wait for you to pull the next line of bullshit out of your ass. Do you wash your hands afterwards?
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    Do we have issues here, perhaps an 'intervention' is needed uh.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PocketBlaster View Post
    Do we have issues here, perhaps an 'intervention' is needed uh.


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    Yep. You need to STAY GONE WHEN YOU GET BANNED HAROLD!!!
    "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to talk out your ass and remove all doubt." A. Lincoln (sort of.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NunquamNonParatus View Post
    You are so full of shit. You don't know beans from apple butter. I can hardly wait for you to pull the next line of bullshit out of your ass. Do you wash your hands afterwards?
    Everybody knows velocity is not a factor. Everybody knows slower is better.
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