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Why Point Shooting Is Useless To Practice (Don’t Waste Your Time!)

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If you’ve ever done any reading on training with a handgun.

Or you’ve read anything about combat and self-defense techniques, then you may have come across the “point shooting vs aimed fire” debate.

Essentially, it goes something like this:

Point shooters say that most people won’t see their handgun sights under stress so the best way to train is to point shoot because why bother training to use your sights.

The sighted fire guys say that you should always use your sights because accuracy is everything. And that’s what the sights are there for.

So who’s right?
this is an interesting read but they seem to make "point and shoot" as something a gun fighter would do when in fack leveling the gun closer to the line of sight is reality under stress



“While Applegate did cover firing handguns from the hip (from a position he called the “1/2 hip” position), he was careful to point out that this method only worked on targets at the same level as the shooter, and only at very close range. The preferred method was to bring the handgun up to just below eye level. With the proper grip and a locked elbow and wrist, this will bring the gun to bear on the target.”
Why Point Shooting Is Useless To Practice (Don?t Waste Your Time!) | Prepared Gun Owners
 
#2 ·
These articles always make me smile! I'm a very good, 'point shooter'. I first developed this skill when I was only 15 years old; and, with practice, it's stayed with me all of my long life. The last time I posted pictures of some of my cleanly hit, 15 yard, point shooting targets, I got called a liar. So, I don't post targets anymore. As far as I'm concerned this is an IGF, 'tempest in a teapot'. To a gunman who knows how to do it there's no question that point shooting can be a highly useful skill; to another gunman who doesn't know how to point shooting everything remains a mystery; and it ain't going to work for him. (So, by logical extension, it's not going to work for anyone else either!) ;)
 
#3 ·
These articles always make me smile! I'm a very good, 'point shooter'. I first developed this skill when I was only 15 years old; and, with practice, it's stayed with me all of my long life. ;)
I too practice P-A-S with a laser and I have to say my skill have greatly improved. I believe that there are some useful info as well as some garbage. hand guns have hit their apex with the modern age of computers and mountain of info they bring in the sense that one person can take another's skill and hone it to their own liking thus making them proficient in their own method thus another comes along and then does the same thing with theirs.

we have see many action shooters that use point and shoot in a verity of ways, skills that have been hones from hours of training
 
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Point shooters say that most people won’t see their handgun sights under stress so the best way to train is to point shoot because why bother training to use your sights.
In my humble opinion you better be practicing both ways and you better be practicing off-hand (weak hand) and one handed as well.
And no greater than 15 feet. (not yards)
I'm doing it now with my .38 snubby haven't work up to doing it yet with my G30. I'm doing it at 9-15 feet.

And let me tell you something I can't hit s--t !
But it's a necessary practice in my book.
C&C is a whole other realm of gun use. Fundamentals are good and necessary but in a life and death situation C&C changes some of those rules.
 
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JWR,as you know I am a Snubby lover myself.I practice with mine all of the time and try to do single hand both sides and a little point shooting but like you I can't hit sh*~t point shooting.That is some difacult sh*~t to master but I'll do it if it kills me.Snub Nose .38's lend themselves to close quarter shooting, they are the best at that that there is.I carry a J-frame everyday even when I'm carting something bigger around.The best point shooting pistol in the world is a snub nose of some sort.Just picked up a set of ivory grips for my S&W Model 60 no dash,with a polished silver Tyler-T grip adapter on it.I polished the whole revolver with Mothers Mag Polish and it is beautiful but I digress,as in anything else,practice,good practice,makes perfect and we will master point shooting eventually.Long live the snub nose J-Frame .38.-Cowboy
 
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No laser for me it's a false comfort zone and at my new club I just got accepted into I have 22 acres all to myself if I plan my visit just right.
But yeah I hear you.

Bottom line practice for the unexpected.
I might even one day practice shooting from my pocket. As Big Buck is hovering over ya fixing to put his shoe in your face out comes the .38. (and hopefully no gonads with it)

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#13 ·
Point shooting is fine - for ranges not exceeding 5 - 10 feet. If you're so talented & have unusually sharp eye-hand coordination & you can consistently hit targets at longer ranges, more power to ya. As Jeff Cooper said, bringing the gun up to eye level doesn't take much more time than point shooting, and you'll hit, instead of miss. And, you'll hit more effectively.

And, if you needed to make a shot with your friends or loved ones nearby, you'd be unnecessarily risking their lives by point shooting. In fact, a famous LEO & gun writer killed his partner instead of the suspect by point shooting.
 
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I've done it quite a bit, usually about 30 rounds out of 100 when I go to the range.

BUT, I've Never heard of it taught using your middle finger to pull the trigger!!!

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#15 ·
I've done it quite a bit, usually about 30 rounds out of 100 when I go to the range.

BUT, I've Never heard of it taught using your middle finger to pull the trigger!!!
IMP this is a fail, the human hand is designed for gripping and to have total control of the middle finger is not going to work