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I've been carrying my Glock 30 for almost 15 years now and thankfully - uneventfully! I've been using every kind of high power 230 gr HPs and never really settled on one in particular.
My question to you all is :
In the event of home invasion, what 45acp round would be the most effective for kill, yet would do the LEAST amount of over-penetration? I live in an urban environment where my neighbor's homes are about 30 ft away from my home on each side.
 

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If you're worried about your misses penetrating walls, I would think that a lighter, faster load (185gr) would be have less momentum after hitting a wall than would a slower, heavier round.

In any case, it seems as if a .45 ACP HP is going to penetrate less than a 9mm or .40 S&W. My G30 is loaded with 230gr Gold Dots :)
 

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If you're worried about your misses penetrating walls, I would think that a lighter, faster load (185gr) would be have less momentum after hitting a wall than would a slower, heavier round.

In any case, it seems as if a .45 ACP HP is going to penetrate less than a 9mm or .40 S&W. My G30 is loaded with 230gr Gold Dots :)
Yupp ... I enjoy all my 230gr rounds - especially the HS by Federal and the same Gold Dots as yours. However, trying to keep things up to date with new bullet technologies, I'm gonna order me some 180 CD by Hornady.
The ballistics gel pictures do it for me. Only thing about those 'gel' tests is - why don't they put a few layers of denim in front of the gel blocks for a more 'real world' experience?
After all, those blocks cost a fortune and only represent human tissue naked ... not clothed with possibly a heavy grade of leather biker's jacket (for example).
 

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Yupp ... I enjoy all my 230gr rounds - especially the HS by Federal and the same Gold Dots as yours. However, trying to keep things up to date with new bullet technologies, I'm gonna order me some 180 CD by Hornady.
The ballistics gel pictures do it for me. Only thing about those 'gel' tests is - why don't they put a few layers of denim in front of the gel blocks for a more 'real world' experience?
After all, those blocks cost a fortune and only represent human tissue naked ... not clothed with possibly a heavy grade of leather biker's jacket (for example).
Good thing about .45 ACP is that it will always make a big hole :)

Youtube user tnoutdoors9 has started cooking his own gel and doing some denim tests with it:

tnoutdoors9's Channel - YouTube
 

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You should check out federal guard dog ammo its designed for home defensive so that the round doesnt go through another wall. I havent tried it but i think i will since i have a baby and live out in the county.
 

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Federal hst 230 grain standard pressure. From a short barrel you should be ok. I am no expert but that is my ammo brand now. Used to be a ranger fan for years, matter of fact I still have some 147 grain black talons 9mm.
 

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I've read good stuff on the "Guard Dog" ammo...haven't compared it against others, tho...
 

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Seems one of it's selling points/design is a lack of overpenetration...
 

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To me the most all around effective cartride in 45 acp is the Winchester Silvertip. As far as over penetration, that is a hard one to call depending on shot placement (or non-placement as the case may be).
 

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I didn't realize that the .45 had that problem. I thought the 'hole' precept of the .45 was to avoid over penetration allowing for full expansion and efficient transfer of energy to knock someone on their a$$. Have they tried to over compensate with bullet weight causing this problem?
 
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