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I recently purchased two tungsten guide rods... one for my G19 and the other for my G23... both are Gen 4. I noticed when I opened the box and took them out they were very similar in size. I know both Glocks are pretty much the same gun... except for the caliber of course. I then looked at the packing the guide rods came in and I noticed both had the same product number and sku. I thought that was strange since both had different item numbers from the website I ordered them from. I emailed the company and have not received a response as of yet. My question is... are they indeed the same guide rods? Does it matter which Glock I put them in? Are the SS and tungsten guide rods just a big hype and really not the real deal? I have not been to the range yet to try them because of this.
 

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I would bet that the after markets are more interchangeable than what you might order from Glock OEM. There was a question posted the other day on the forum asking if the stock guide rod from a 17 would fit a 23. I believe that the guide rod lengths are the same in the mid to compacts maybe not the sub com-pact models. (I have not seen the dimensions yet for comparison) The only thing I would be concerned about is if the springs were the same tension and would cycle without problems. My guess is the after markets have more than likely optimized this so yes they would be fine. Let us know what response you get from the company.
 

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They should be different, let us know when you get them. Also, I am curious if they are any better than factory. I never had a problem withe factory guide rods, so why change?
i ment 1 for gen 4 1 for gen 3
 

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They should be different, let us know when you get them. Also, I am curious if they are any better than factory. I never had a problem withe factory guide rods, so why change?
I agree, no problem here either with OEM guide rods, although the previous owner of my G21SF RTF2 put one i (tungsten) and I have had no problem with it either.
 

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The makers of the tungsten rod claim you get less recoil because of the increased weight which they suppose results in more accurate shots. I'm skeptical because it can't be all that much heavier. Does anyone have experience shooting with a tungsten rod after replacing the OEM part? Any perceptible difference in recoil or accuracy? FTR I have a G23.
 

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The makers of the tungsten rod claim you get less recoil because of the increased weight which they suppose results in more accurate shots. I'm skeptical because it can't be all that much heavier. Does anyone have experience shooting with a tungsten rod after replacing the OEM part? Any perceptible difference in recoil or accuracy? FTR I have a G23.
Yeah, I thought the whole purpose of Tungsten was because it was light and strong. I would bet it's lighter than the nylon one but not by much maybe a fraction.
 

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Yeah, I thought the whole purpose of Tungsten was because it was light and strong. I would bet it's lighter than the nylon one but not by much maybe a fraction.
No, "tung" is actually the Norwegian word for "heavy". I bet you're thinking of titanium. The extra heft of tungsten vs. steel (and obviously nylon) is what's supposed to make it better for guide rods (i.e. recoil springs) in terms of lessening recoil and improving accuracy. I was just wondering if anybody had actually tried it before shucking out the $80. I love the whomp of a .40-cal and would never trade for a 9 just to get accuracy, but every little bit of recoil reduction would help.
 

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Well there differnt for sure the 1 for the gen 3 is alot heaver than the 4 i purchased ,,,, really feels heaver in my G21 Gen3in the nose of the pistol ill respond back and see for myself if it tames the recoil any
 

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Well there differnt for sure the 1 for the gen 3 is alot heaver than the 4 i purchased ,,,, really feels heaver in my G21 Gen3in the nose of the pistol ill respond back and see for myself if it tames the recoil any
If it's that heavy it would be interesting to hear if it affects your ability to hold the sights on target. It could be better or worse, I don't know.
 

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No, "tung" is actually the Norwegian word for "heavy". I bet you're thinking of titanium. The extra heft of tungsten vs. steel (and obviously nylon) is what's supposed to make it better for guide rods (i.e. recoil springs) in terms of lessening recoil and improving accuracy. I was just wondering if anybody had actually tried it before shucking out the $80. I love the whomp of a .40-cal and would never trade for a 9 just to get accuracy, but every little bit of recoil reduction would help.
Good to know. thanks
 

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The makers of the tungsten rod claim you get less recoil because of the increased weight which they suppose results in more accurate shots. I'm skeptical because it can't be all that much heavier. Does anyone have experience shooting with a tungsten rod after replacing the OEM part? Any perceptible difference in recoil or accuracy? FTR I have a G23.
Jack if you want to try a steel one for that will fit a Gen2 or 3 Model 23 I have one with some Wolff springs you can have if you are near me for free. I have an old one in my box. PM me if you are interested.


Just posted this in another thread so I'll just copy it here.
It won't increase accuracy. The only reason I could justify using them in the past was because I needed it to use aftermarket Wolff springs. On a model 23C I was using for concealed carry and competition I found issues with the slide going into battery after about 3600 rounds with the factory spring assemblies. I figured out once a round count with the Wolff springs but don't remember the number. It was slightly higher. Once I figured that out I simply replaced at 2000 rounds figuring that was a safe number. Now I have a Gen4 23C and have no plans of getting aftermarket guide rods since the factory recoil spring assembly is so cheap. Tungsten vs. stainless steel vs. factory I couldn't tell a difference in recoil. A 23C doesn't recoil much anyway IMO.
 

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Jack if you want to try a steel one for that will fit a Gen2 or 3 Model 23 I have one with some Wolff springs you can have if you are near me for free. I have an old one in my box. PM me if you are interested.
I have a Gen4 but from your description I don't think I'll mess with a tungsten rod. It's exactly what I was afraid of. In terms of physics, it's not weight anyway that determines how much recoil is absorbed by the rod, it's stiffness, and the tungsten probably isn't significantly stiffer than steel. Thanks for your post.

BTW: I keep hearing about nylon rods in Glocks. My Gen4 has a steel rod. Well, it sure looks and feels like steel to me anyway.
 

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I have a Gen4 but from your description I don't think I'll mess with a tungsten rod. It's exactly what I was afraid of. In terms of physics, it not weight anyway that determines how much recoil is absorbed byt he rod, it's stiffness, and the tungsten probably isn't significantly stiffer than steel. Thanks for your post.

BTW: I keep hearing about nylon rods in Glocks. My Gen4 has a steel rod. Well, it sure looks and feels like steel to me anyway.
No problem. I could also justify it by the ability to play with different weight springs but from my own light reloads to hot Corbon 135 JHP loads to everything in between my Glock was functioning perfect already.
 

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I have never had a prblem with the OEM plastic, so IMHO "if it aint broke dont fix it". I have even seen a video on UTube where 1000 rounds as memory serves were fired without stop and the OEM guide rod melted but the gun did not stop functioning.
 

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To kind of sum things up on this thread, I have a G17 Gen 3 and I have a tungsten recoil spring assembly on it. I will say that it DOES reduce muzzle flip and help for follow up shots for 2 reasons, 1.the weight to the front of it actually does help a little bit with the muzzle flip, and 2. the spring itself is much heavier and a little more difficult to rack it back by hand, but it DOES cycle fine. So, overall, for the $50, I personally love it and DO reccomend it. Now as for the gen 3 and gen 4, they are different, the Gen 4 utilizes a dual spring, while the Gen3 has a single spring. Hope this helps!
 

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And also, the standard plastic RSA DOES have a lot of impact on how accurate you shoot, having a rigid RSA helps maintain consistency.
 
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